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28. God / B. Proving God / 2. Proofs of Reason / b. Ontological Proof critique

[objections to the conceptual proof of God's existence]

38 ideas
Properties must be proved, but not essence; but existents are not a kind, so existence isn't part of essence [Aristotle]
     Full Idea: Everything which a thing is must be proved through a demonstration - except its essence. But existence is not the essence of anything; for the things that exist do not constitute a kind.
     From: Aristotle (Posterior Analytics [c.327 BCE], 92b14)
'Being' and 'oneness' are predicated of everything which exists [Aristotle]
     Full Idea: 'Being' and 'oneness' are predicated of everything which exists.
     From: Aristotle (Topics [c.331 BCE], 121a18)
     A reaction: Is 'oneness' predicated of water? So existence always was a predicate, it seems, until Kant told us it wasn't. That existence is a quantifier, not a predicate, seems to be up for question again these days.
Many primitive people know nothing of the gods [Cicero]
     Full Idea: There must be many wild and primitive peoples who have no idea of the gods at all.
     From: M. Tullius Cicero (On the Nature of the Gods ('De natura deorum') [c.44 BCE], I.62)
God's sensations imply change, and hence perishing, which is absurd, so there is no such God [Sext.Empiricus]
     Full Idea: If God has sensation he is altered, …so he is receptive of change, including change for the worse. If so, he is also perishable, but that is absurd; therefore it is absurd also to claim that God exists.
     From: Sextus Empiricus (Against the Physicists (two books) [c.180], I.146)
     A reaction: [compressed] It is certainly paradoxical to think that God is eternal and unchanging, but also capable of perception and thought, which necessitate change. Some theological ingenuity is needed to explain this.
God without virtue is absurd, but God's virtues will be better than God [Sext.Empiricus]
     Full Idea: If the Divine exists it either has or has not virtue. If it has not it is base and unhappy, which is absurd. But if it has it, there will exist something which is better than God, just as a virtue of a horse is better than the horse itself.
     From: Sextus Empiricus (Against the Physicists (two books) [c.180], I.176)
     A reaction: It is obviously better to think of a virtue as some mode of a thing, rather than as a separate attachment. This is an ontological argument, because it is inferred from the concept of God.
The existence of God can't be self-evident or everyone would have agreed on it, so it needs demonstration [Sext.Empiricus]
     Full Idea: The existence of God is not pre-evident, for if it was the dogmatists would have agreed about it, whereas their disagreements show it is non-evident, and in need of demonstration.
     From: Sextus Empiricus (Outlines of Pyrrhonism [c.180], III.6)
Anselm's first proof fails because existence isn't a real predicate, so it can't be a perfection [Malcolm on Anselm]
     Full Idea: Anselm's first proof fails, because he treats existence as being a perfection, which it isn't, because that would make it a real predicate.
     From: comment on Anselm (Proslogion [1090], Ch 2) by Norman Malcolm - Anselm's Argument Sect I
     A reaction: Not everyone accepts Kant's claim that existence cannot be a predicate. They all seem to know what a perfection is. Can the Mona Lisa (an object) not be a perfection? Must it be broken down into perfect predicates?
We can't know God's essence, so his existence can't be self-evident for us [Aquinas]
     Full Idea: Because we do not know the essence of God, the proposition 'God exists' is not self-evident to us, but needs to be demonstrated by things that are more known to us.
     From: Thomas Aquinas (Summa Theologicae [1265], Art 1, Obj 3)
     A reaction: Depends on his definition of self-evidence (Idea 21250), which needs knowledge of the essence of the subject. Anselm required 'understanding' of the concept. One might understand the existence criteria without knowing the whole essence. Anselm wins.
It is heresy to teach that we can know God by his essence in this mortal life [Anon (Par)]
     Full Idea: It is heresy to teach that we can know God by his essence in this mortal life.
     From: Anon (Par) (The Condemnation of 1277 [1277], §9)
We mustn't worship God as an image because we have no idea of him [Hobbes on Descartes]
     Full Idea: We are forbidden to worship God in the form of an image, for otherwise we might think that we were conceiving of him who is incapable of being conceived. It seems, then, that there is no idea of God in us.
     From: comment on René Descartes (Meditations [1641], §5.65) by Thomas Hobbes - Objections to 'Meditations' (Third) 180
We can never conceive of an infinite being [Gassendi on Descartes]
     Full Idea: The human intellect is not capable of conceiving of infinity, and hence it neither has nor can contemplate any idea representing an infinite thing.
     From: comment on René Descartes (Meditations [1641], §5.65) by Pierre Gassendi - Objections to 'Meditations' (Fifth) 286
Descartes cannot assume that a most perfect being exists without contradictions [Leibniz on Descartes]
     Full Idea: Descartes' error is in assuming without proof that a most perfect being does not involve a contradiction.
     From: comment on René Descartes (Meditations [1641], §5.67) by Gottfried Leibniz - A Specimen of Discoveries p.76
     A reaction: Certainly Descartes seems obliged to grasp the concept of God 'clearly and distinctly', so there must be an absence of contradictions. But does Descartes have to prove that there are no contradictions in his concept of a triangle? Is self-evidence enough?
Existence is not a perfection; it is what makes perfection possible [Gassendi on Descartes]
     Full Idea: Existence is not a perfection in God or in anything else; it is that without which no perfections can be present.
     From: comment on René Descartes (Meditations [1641], §5.67) by Pierre Gassendi - Objections to 'Meditations' (Fifth) 323
If a thing can be conceived as non-existing, its essence does not involve existence [Spinoza]
     Full Idea: If a thing can be conceived as non-existing, its essence does not involve existence.
     From: Baruch de Spinoza (The Ethics [1675], I Ax 7)
     A reaction: This points straight at the modern question of whether conceivability is a sufficient test for possibility. Personally I am close to Hume on this one. Necessary existence may not be ridiculous, but it is beyond human capacity to assert its occurrence.
It can never be a logical contradiction to assert the non-existence of something thought to exist [Hume]
     Full Idea: Whatever 'is' may 'not be'. No negation of a fact can involve a contradiction. The non-existence of any being, without exception, is as clear and distinct an idea as its existence.
     From: David Hume (Enquiry Conc Human Understanding [1748], XII.III.132)
No being's non-existence can imply a contradiction, so its existence cannot be proved a priori [Hume]
     Full Idea: Nothing that is distinctly conceivable implies a contradiction. Whatever we conceive of as existent we can also conceive as non-existent. So there is no being whose non-existence implies a contradiction. So no being's existence is demonstrable.
     From: David Hume (Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion [1751], Part 9)
     A reaction: I totally subscribe to this idea, and take claims that nature actually contains contradictions (based on the inevitable quantum mechanics) to be ridiculous. Nature is the embodiment, chief exemplar and prime test of consistency.
Existence is merely derived from the word 'is' (rather than being a predicate) [Kant, by Orenstein]
     Full Idea: For Kant, existence derives from a true affirmative subject-copula-predicate judgement; existence is not a real predicate, but is merely derivatively implied by the copula ('is').
     From: report of Immanuel Kant (Critique of Pure Reason [1781]) by Alex Orenstein - W.V. Quine Ch.2
     A reaction: This is Kant's understanding of 'existence is not a predicate', prior to the later move of Brentano and Frege, which places existence claims in the quantifier, which is outside the proposition.
Modern logic says (with Kant) that existence is not a predicate, because it has been reclassified as a quantifier [Benardete,JA on Kant]
     Full Idea: Kant's famous critique of the Ontological Argument that existence is not a predicate leaves one perplexed as to what it might be, but modern logic says that existence is a quantifier, not a predicate.
     From: comment on Immanuel Kant (Critique of Pure Reason [1781]) by José A. Benardete - Metaphysics: the logical approach Ch.10
     A reaction: See McGinn's criticism of this in Idea 6062.
Kant never denied that 'exist' could be a predicate - only that it didn't enlarge concepts [Kant, by Fitting/Mendelsohn]
     Full Idea: Kant denied that 'exists' was a predicate that enlarged the concept; he never denied that it was a predicate.
     From: report of Immanuel Kant (Critique of Pure Reason [1781]) by M Fitting/R Mendelsohn - First-Order Modal Logic 8.4
If 'this exists' is analytic, either the thing is a thought, or you have presupposed its existence [Kant]
     Full Idea: If the proposition 'this thing exists' is analytic, ..then either the thought is the thing, or else you have presupposed the existence and then inferred it, which is just a miserable tautology.
     From: Immanuel Kant (Critique of Pure Reason [1781], B625/A597)
     A reaction: I love the phrase "miserable tautology"! A possible strategy is to treat God as a self-evident a priori axiom. This would not be a tautology, but it would make evidence irrelevant. This may be the strategy behind Kierkegaard's 'leap of faith'.
Is "This thing exists" analytic or synthetic? [Kant]
     Full Idea: Is the proposition "This or that thing exists" an analytic or a synthetic proposition?
     From: Immanuel Kant (Critique of Pure Reason [1781], B625/A597)
     A reaction: Quine's challenge to the analytic/synthetic distinction (e.g. Idea 1626) may spoil this question, but it seems fine ask whether we are talking about words or facts here. Once this question is asked, the Ontological Argument is in trouble.
If an existential proposition is synthetic, you must be able to cancel its predicate without contradiction [Kant]
     Full Idea: If you concede that every existential proposition is synthetic, then how would you assert that the predicate of existence may not be cancelled without contradictions?
     From: Immanuel Kant (Critique of Pure Reason [1781], B626/A598)
     A reaction: The point is that the Ontological Argument claims that "God does not exist" is a contradiction. Kant is echoing Hume here. The proposition that 'nothing exists' hardly sounds like a logical impossibility
Being is not a real predicate, that adds something to a concept [Kant]
     Full Idea: Being is obviously not a real predicate, i.e. a concept of something that could add to the concept of a thing.
     From: Immanuel Kant (Critique of Pure Reason [1781], B626/A598)
     A reaction: Kant's famous slogan against the Ontological Argument. The modern line is that existence is a quantifier, which stands outside a proposition, and says whether it applies to anything. It is worth considering the possibility that Kant is wrong.
You add nothing to the concept of God or coins if you say they exist [Kant]
     Full Idea: If I take God together with all his predicates (among which omnipotence belongs), and say 'God is', then I add no new predicate to the concept of God. ..A hundred actual thalers do not contain the least bit more than a hundred possible ones.
     From: Immanuel Kant (Critique of Pure Reason [1781], B627/A599)
     A reaction: Norman Malcolm claims that 'necessary existence' adds something to a concept. We can compare a concept with and without contingent existence, but the comparison is void if the existence is necessary. I love Kant's objection, though.
The predicate 'exists' is actually a natural language expression for a quantifier [Frege, by Weiner]
     Full Idea: On Frege's logical analysis, the predicate 'exists' is actually a natural language expression for a quantifier.
     From: report of Gottlob Frege (Begriffsschrift [1879]) by Joan Weiner - Frege Ch.8
     A reaction: However see Idea 6067, for McGinn's alternative view of quantifiers. In the normal conventions of predicate logic it may be that existence is treated as a quantifier, but that is not the same as saying that existence just IS a quantifier.
The Ontological Argument fallaciously treats existence as a first-level concept [Frege]
     Full Idea: The ontological proof of God's existence suffers from the fallacy of treating existence as a first-level concept.
     From: Gottlob Frege (Function and Concept [1891], p.38 n)
     A reaction: [See Idea 8490 for first- and second-order functions] This is usually summarised as the idea that existence is a quantifier rather than a predicate.
Existence is not a first-level concept (of God), but a second-level property of concepts [Frege, by Potter]
     Full Idea: For Frege (unlike Kant) existence is a genuine concept, but of the second level, not the first. Since God's perfections are of the first level, existence is not a candidate to be one of them.
     From: report of Gottlob Frege (Grundlagen der Arithmetik (Foundations) [1884], §053) by Michael Potter - The Rise of Analytic Philosophy 1879-1930 09 'App'
     A reaction: That is, God's perfections are of God, but existence is a concept of concepts (that they are instantiated). So existence is a metaconcept. I'm not convinced. If I bake a successful cake, its existence is its most wonderful feature.
Because existence is a property of concepts the ontological argument for God fails [Frege]
     Full Idea: Because existence is a property of concepts the ontological argument for the existence of God breaks down.
     From: Gottlob Frege (Grundlagen der Arithmetik (Foundations) [1884], §53)
     A reaction: The point being that existence (like number) is not a property of actual things. His proposition sounds rather dubious. The concept of unicorns exists quite entertainingly; it is the failure of actual unicorns to exist that is so heartbreaking.
The supreme general but empty concepts must be compatible, and hence we get 'God' [Nietzsche]
     Full Idea: The supreme concepts of philosophers cannot be incommensurate with one another, be incompatible with one another... Thus they acquired their stupendous concept 'God'.... The last, thinnest, emptiest is placed as the first, as cause in itself.
     From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Twilight of the Idols [1889], 2.4)
The ontological argument begins with an unproven claim that 'there exists an x..' [Russell]
     Full Idea: 'There is one and only one entity x which is most perfect; that one has all perfections; existence is a perfection; therefore that one exists' fails as a proof because there is no proof of the first premiss.
     From: Bertrand Russell (On Denoting [1905], p.54)
     A reaction: This is the modern move of saying that existence (which is 'not a predicate', according to Kant) is actually a quantifier, which isolates the existence claim being made about a variable with a bunch of predicates. McGinn denies Russell's claim.
You can discuss 'God exists', so 'God' is a description, not a name [Russell]
     Full Idea: The fact that you can discuss the proposition 'God exists' is a proof that 'God', as used in that proposition, is a description and not a name. If 'God' were a name, no question as to its existence could arise.
     From: Bertrand Russell (The Philosophy of Logical Atomism [1918], §VI)
     A reaction: Presumably 'a being than which none greater can be conceived' (Anselm's definition) is self-evidently a description, and doesn't claim to be a name. Aquinas caps each argument with a triumphant naming of the being he has proved.
When we ascribe an attribute to a thing, we covertly assert that it exists [Ayer]
     Full Idea: When we ascribe an attribute to a thing, we covertly assert that it exists.
     From: A.J. Ayer (Language,Truth and Logic [1936], Ch.1)
     A reaction: This is an unsurprising endorsement from logical positivism that Kant's claim that the ontological argument is probably tautological is correct. We could of course say "Imagine a non-existent being with dirty toenails".
There is no reason to think that mere existence is a valuable thing [Inwagen]
     Full Idea: There is no reason to suppose - whatever Saint Anselm and Descartes may have thought - that mere existence is a valuable thing.
     From: Peter van Inwagen (Material Beings [1990], 12)
     A reaction: This is one of the simplest and most powerful objections to the Ontological Argument. God's existence may be of great value, but the existence of Hitler wasn't.
If Satan is the most imperfect conceivable being, he must have non-existence [McGinn]
     Full Idea: Satan cannot exist because he is the most imperfect conceivable being, and existence is one of the perfections.
     From: Colin McGinn (Logical Properties [2000], Ch.2)
     A reaction: The logic of this seems right to me. Presumably the theologians would hastily deny this as a definition of Satan; he must have some positive qualities (like power) in order to enact his supreme moral imperfections. NIce, though.
I think the fault of the Ontological Argument is taking the original idea to be well-defined [McGinn]
     Full Idea: My own suspicion about the Ontological Argument is that the fault lies in taking notions like 'the most perfect, impressive and powerful being conceivable' to be well-defined.
     From: Colin McGinn (Logical Properties [2000], Ch.2)
     A reaction: I'm tempted to put it more strongly: the single greatest challenge for the theist with intellectual integrity is to give a clear and coherent definition of God. There must be no internal contradictions, and it must be within the bounds of possibility.
'Existence' is not a predicate of 'man', but of the concept of man, saying it has at least one instance [Scruton]
     Full Idea: When I say that a man exists, Frege argues, I do not predicate existence of a man, but rather of the concept man: I say the concept has at least one instance (and existence is a predicate of predicates).
     From: Roger Scruton (Modern Philosophy:introduction and survey [1994], 26.2)
A thing can't be the only necessary existent, because its singleton set would be as well [Williamson]
     Full Idea: That there is just one necessary existent is surely false, for if x is a necessary, {x} is a distinct necessary existent.
     From: Timothy Williamson (Truthmakers and Converse Barcan Formula [1999], §1)
     A reaction: You would have to believe that sets actually 'exist' to accept this, but it is a very neat point.
God can't have silly perfections, but how do we decide which ones are 'silly'? [Joslin]
     Full Idea: It is clear that God cannot have all conceivable perfections, because otherwise he would have absurd perfections (like being the perfect prawn sandwich), so a line must be drawn, and how are we to decide which perfections are appropriate and essential?
     From: Jack Joslin (talk [2006]), quoted by PG - Db (ideas)
     A reaction: This is an excellent question for curbing the absurdities of those who want to load God with every good thing that can possibly be conceived. Is the God who is also a perfect prawn sandwich more perfect than the one who isn't?