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27. Natural Reality / D. Time / 1. Nature of Time / b. Relative time

[time is relative to observers, objects and relations]

10 ideas
There is no time without movement [Aristotle]
     Full Idea: There can be no time without movement.
     From: Aristotle (Coming-to-be and Passing-away (Gen/Corr) [c.335 BCE], 337a24)
     A reaction: See Shoemaker's nice thought experiment as a challenge to this. Intuition seems to cry out that if movement stopped for a moment, that would not stop time, even though there was no way to measure its passing.
If there were many cosmoses, each would have its own time, giving many times [Aristotle]
     Full Idea: If there were a plurality of heavens, in the same way the movement of each of them would be a time, so that many times would coexist.
     From: Aristotle (Physics [c.337 BCE], 218b3)
     A reaction: I take it that for Aristotle this is an absurdity, but for a modern cosmologist this is a real possibility. So which one is fastest? Can God rank them according to speed?
If motion and rest are abolished, so is time [Sext.Empiricus]
     Full Idea: Since time does not seem to subsist without motion or even rest, if motion is abolished, and likewise rest, time is abolished.
     From: Sextus Empiricus (Outlines of Pyrrhonism [c.180], III.141)
Space and time are the order of all possibilities, and don't just relate to what is actual [Leibniz]
     Full Idea: Space and time taken together constitute the order of possibilities of the one entire universe, so that these orders relate not only to what actually is, but also to anything that could be put in its place.
     From: Gottfried Leibniz (Reply to 'Rorarius' 2nd ed [1702], GP iv 568), quoted by Richard T.W. Arthur - Leibniz 7 'Space and Time'
     A reaction: A very nice idea. Rather like the 'space of reasons', where all rational thought must exist, space and time are the 'space of existence and action'. Their concepts involve more than relations between what actually exists.
Space and time are purely relative [Leibniz]
     Full Idea: I have more than once stated that I held space to be something purely relative, like time.
     From: Gottfried Leibniz (Letters to Samuel Clarke [1716], 3.4)
Time is the order of inconsistent possibilities [Leibniz]
     Full Idea: Time is the order of inconsistent possibilities.
     From: Gottfried Leibniz (Letters to Burcher De Volder [1706], 1703.06.20)
     A reaction: Cf. Idea 13180. This sounds wonderfully bold and interesting, but I can't make much sense of it. One might say it is 'an' order for such things, but 'the' order is weird.
Time may be defined as the possibility of mutually exclusive conditions of the same thing [Schopenhauer]
     Full Idea: Time may be defined as the possibility of mutually exclusive conditions of the same thing.
     From: Arthur Schopenhauer (Abstract of 'The Fourfold Root' [1813], Ch.IV)
     A reaction: An off-beat philosophical view of the question. Sounds more like a consequence of time than its essential nature.
For McTaggart time is seen either as fixed, or as relative to events [McTaggart, by Ayer]
     Full Idea: McTaggart says we can speak of events in time in two ways, as past, present or future, or as being before or after or simultaneous with one another. The first cannot be reduced to the second, as the second makes no provision for the passage of time.
     From: report of J.M.E. McTaggart (The Nature of Existence vol.2 [1927], II.329-) by A.J. Ayer - The Central Questions of Philosophy 1.D
We have the confused idea that time is a process of change [Lockwood]
     Full Idea: Somehow we have got it into our heads that time itself is a process of change.
     From: Michael Lockwood (Mind, Brain and the Quantum [1989], p.12)
The relational view of space-time doesn't cover times and places where things could be [Bird]
     Full Idea: The obvious problem with the simple relational view of space and time is that it fails to account for the full range of spatio-temporal possibility. There seem to be times and places where objects and events could be, but are not.
     From: Alexander Bird (Nature's Metaphysics [2007], 7.3.2)
     A reaction: This view seems strongly supported by intuition. I certainly don't accept the views of physicists and cosmologists on the subject, because they seem to approach the whole thing too instrumentally.