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Ideas of Plato, by Text
[Greek, 428 - 347 BCE, Athenian pupil of Socrates. Founded Academy in Athens 385. Travelled to Italy and Sicily. Taught Aristotle. Died in Athens.]
214d
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p.147
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294
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People say that friendship exists only between good men
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216d
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p.150
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295
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The good is beautiful
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07e
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p.27
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335
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Do the gods also hold different opinions about what is right and honourable?
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10a
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p.31
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336
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Is what is pious loved by the gods because it is pious, or is it pious because they love it? (the 'Euthyphro Question')
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10e
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p.31
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337
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It seems that the gods love things because they are pious, rather than making them pious by loving them
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297b
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p.255
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297
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What is fine is the parent of goodness
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299a
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p.257
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298
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While sex is very pleasant, it should be in secret, as it looks contemptible
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304e
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p.265
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299
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What is fine is always difficult
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p.117
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1654
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In "Gorgias" Socrates is confident that his 'elenchus' will decide moral truth [Vlastos]
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451e
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p.11
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4320
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The popular view is that health is first, good looks second, and honest wealth third
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455a
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p.17
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114
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Rhetoric can produce conviction, but not educate people about right and wrong
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462a
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p.28
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4321
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We should test one another, by asking and answering questions
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465a
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p.32
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116
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Rhetoric is irrational about its means and its ends
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469c
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p.40
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118
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I would rather be a victim of crime than a criminal
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472e
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p.46
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119
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A criminal is worse off if he avoids punishment
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480a
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p.60
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120
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Should we avoid evil because it will bring us bad consequences?
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483b
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p.65
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122
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Moral rules are made by the weak members of humanity
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483c
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p.66
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123
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Do most people like equality because they are second-rate?
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483d
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p.66
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124
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Does nature imply that it is right for better people to have greater benefits?
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485d
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p.68
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125
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Is a gifted philosopher unmanly if he avoids the strife of the communal world?
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491e
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p.79
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128
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Is it natural to simply indulge our selfish desires?
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492a
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p.79
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129
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Do most people praise self-discipline and justice because they are too timid to gain their own pleasure?
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492c
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p.79
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130
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Is the happiest state one of sensual, self-indulgent freedom?
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492e
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p.80
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131
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If absence of desire is happiness, then nothing is happier than a stone or a corpse
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493b
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p.80
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4319
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In a fool's mind desire is like a leaky jar, insatiable in its desires, and order and contentment are better
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494c
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p.82
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132
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If happiness is the satisfaction of desires, then a life of scratching itches should be happiness
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497d
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p.88
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4322
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In slaking our thirst the goodness of the action and the pleasure are clearly separate
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498c
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p.90
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134
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Good and bad people seem to experience equal amounts of pleasure and pain
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499e
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p.93
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135
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All activity aims at the good
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500a
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p.93
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136
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Good should be the aim of pleasant activity, not the other way round
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506e
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p.104
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137
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As with other things, a good state is organised and orderly
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507c
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p.105
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139
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A good person is bound to act well, and this brings happiness
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507e
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p.106
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140
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Self-indulgent desire makes friendship impossible, because it makes a person incapable of co-operation
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517b
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p.120
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141
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A good citizen won't be passive, but will redirect the needs of the state
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70a
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p.115
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1913
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Is virtue taught, or achieved by practice, or a natural aptitude, or what?
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72c
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p.117
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1916
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Even if virtues are many and various, they must have something in common to make them virtues
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79c
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p.127
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1918
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How can you know part of virtue without knowing the whole?
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80d05
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p.880
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11259
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How can you seek knowledge of something if you don't know it?
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80e
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p.128
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1919
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You don't need to learn what you know, and how do you seek for what you don't know?
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81d
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p.880
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5985
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Seeking and learning are just recollection
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85d
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p.886
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5986
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The slave boy learns geometry from questioning, not teaching, so it is recollection
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87c
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p.141
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1921
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If virtue is a type of knowledge then it ought to be taught
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88c
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p.142
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1922
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Spiritual qualities only become advantageous with the growth of wisdom
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97b
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p.153
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1923
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As a guide to action, true opinion is as good as knowledge
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98a3
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p.895
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20219
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True opinions only become really valuable when they are tied down by reasons
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99e
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p.156
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1927
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It seems that virtue is neither natural nor taught, but is a divine gift
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180b
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p.45
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14177
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Love assists men in achieving merit and happiness
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184c
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p.51
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170
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The only slavery which is not dishonourable is slavery to excellence
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187c
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p.55
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171
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Music is a knowledge of love in the realm of harmony and rhythm
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201a
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p.78
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172
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Love of ugliness is impossible
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201c
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p.78
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173
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Beauty and goodness are the same
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202a
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p.80
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174
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True opinion without reason is midway between wisdom and ignorance
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202c
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p.80
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14178
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Happiness is secure enjoyment of what is good and beautiful
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204a
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p.82
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175
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Gods are not lovers of wisdom, because they are already wise
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204b
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p.83
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176
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Love follows beauty, wisdom is exceptionally beautiful, so love follows wisdom
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205a
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p.84
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177
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If a person is good they will automatically become happy
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206a
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p.86
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179
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Love is desire for perpetual possession of the good
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206d
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p.489
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4026
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Beauty is harmony with what is divine, and ugliness is lack of such harmony
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207d
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p.88
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180
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We call a person the same throughout life, but all their attributes change
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208b
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p.89
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181
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Only the gods stay unchanged; we replace our losses with similar acquisitions
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209a
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p.90
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14179
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The finest branch of wisdom is justice and moderation in ordering states and families
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210a
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p.92
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182
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The first step on the right path is the contemplation of physical beauty when young
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210a4-
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p.199
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1607
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Diotima said the Forms are the objects of desire in philosophical discourse [Roochnik]
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210b
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p.92
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183
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Stage two is the realisation that beauty of soul is of more value than beauty of body
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211c
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p.94
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184
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Progress goes from physical beauty, to moral beauty, to the beauty of knowledge, and reaches absolute beauty
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38a
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p.125
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1655
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If goodness needs true opinion but not knowledge, you can skip the 'examined life' [Vlastos]
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058a
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p.50
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16516
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The ship which Theseus took to Crete is now sent to Delos crowned with flowers
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065c
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p.109
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350
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In investigation the body leads us astray, but the soul gets a clear view of the facts
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066c
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p.111
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9343
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To achieve pure knowledge, we must get rid of the body and contemplate things with the soul
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066c
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p.111
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351
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War aims at the acquisition of wealth, because we are enslaved to the body
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069b
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p.115
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354
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Wisdom makes virtue and true goodness possible
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073a
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p.121
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357
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People are obviously recollecting when they react to a geometrical diagram
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074e
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p.124
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359
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If we feel the inadequacy of a resemblance, we must recollect the original
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075a
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p.124
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360
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We must have a prior knowledge of equality, if we see 'equal' things and realise they fall short of it
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084c
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p.136
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361
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It is a mistake to think that the most violent pleasure or pain is therefore the truest reality
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089d
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p.144
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362
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The greatest misfortune for a person is to develop a dislike for argument
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092d
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p.148
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363
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Whether the soul pre-exists our body depends on whether it contains the ultimate standard of reality
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093b
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p.149
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364
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One soul can't be more or less of a soul than another
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097a
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p.153
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13154
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Do we think and experience with blood, air or fire, or could it be our brain?
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097d
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p.84
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15859
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To investigate the causes of things, study what is best for them
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097d
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p.154
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13155
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If you add one to one, which one becomes two, or do they both become two?
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099c
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p.157
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13156
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Fancy being unable to distinguish a cause from its necessary background conditions!
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100c
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p.159
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1
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There is only one source for all beauty
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102a
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p.161
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368
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Other things are named after the Forms because they participate in them
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102b-c
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p.88
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21347
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If Simmias is taller than Socrates, that isn't a feature that is just in Simmias
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108e
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p.171
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369
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If the Earth is spherical and in the centre, it is kept in place by universal symmetry, not by force
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114b
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p.178
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370
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Philosophy is a purification of the soul ready for the afterlife
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188b
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p.96
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291
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Don't assume that wisdom is the automatic consequence of old age
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197b
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p.109
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293
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Being unafraid (perhaps through ignorance) and being brave are two different things
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320b
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p.51
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188
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Socrates did not believe that virtue could be taught
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324c
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p.56
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189
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If we punish wrong-doers, it shows that we believe virtue can be taught
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330c
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p.62
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190
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If asked whether justice itself is just or unjust, you would have to say that it is just
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331d
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p.64
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191
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Everything resembles everything else up to a point
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332c
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p.65
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192
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Only one thing can be contrary to something
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333e
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p.67
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193
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Some things are good even though they are not beneficial to men
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345b
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p.776
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20184
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The only real evil is loss of knowledge
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351d
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p.88
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197
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Some pleasures are not good, and some pains are not evil
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352d
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p.782
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20185
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The most important things in life are wisdom and knowledge
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354a
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p.90
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200
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People tend only to disapprove of pleasure if it leads to pain, or prevents future pleasure
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358d
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p.95
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202
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No one willingly and knowingly embraces evil
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360d
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p.98
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203
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Courage is knowing what should or shouldn't be feared
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361b
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p.99
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204
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Socrates is contradicting himself in claiming virtue can't be taught, but that it is knowledge
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289b
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p.726
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16120
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Knowing how to achieve immortality is pointless without the knowledge how to use immortality
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292b
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p.349
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301
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Only knowledge of some sort is good
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293a
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p.351
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302
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What knowledge is required to live well?
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294c
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p.353
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303
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Say how many teeth the other has, then count them. If you are right, we will trust your other claims
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301a
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p.366
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304
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Beautiful things must be different from beauty itself, but beauty itself must be present in each of them
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306a
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p.374
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305
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Something which lies midway between two evils is better than either of them
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385b
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p.105
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13776
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Truths say of what is that it is, falsehoods say of what is that it is not
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385e
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p.103
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13772
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Is the being or essence of each thing private to each person?
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386d
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p.104
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13774
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Things don't have every attribute, and essence isn't private, so each thing has an essence
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387a
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p.104
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13775
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We only succeed in cutting if we use appropriate tools, not if we approach it randomly
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388a
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p.106
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13777
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A name is a sort of tool
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390c
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p.109
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13778
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A dialectician is someone who knows how to ask and to answer questions
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393b
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p.112
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13779
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The natural offspring of a lion is called a 'lion' (but what about the offspring of a king?)
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398b
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p.116
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13780
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Good people are no different from wise ones
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399d
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p.118
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13781
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Soul causes the body to live, and gives it power to breathe and to be revitalized
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406c
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p.124
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13783
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Even the gods love play
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415d
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p.133
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13785
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'Arete' signifies lack of complexity and a free-flowing soul
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416d
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p.134
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13786
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Wisdom is called 'beautiful', because it performs fine works
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423e
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p.140
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13787
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Doesn't each thing have an essence, just as it has other qualities?
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432c
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p.148
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13788
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If we made a perfect duplicate of Cratylus, there would be two Cratyluses
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435d
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p.151
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13789
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Anyone who knows a thing's name also knows the thing
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436c
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p.152
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13790
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A name-giver might misname something, then force other names to conform to it
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438b
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p.153
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13791
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Things must be known before they are named, so it can't be the names that give us knowledge
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439e
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p.155
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2063
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How can beauty have identity if it changes?
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440a
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p.155
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13792
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There can't be any knowledge if things are constantly changing
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p.8
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9607
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The greatest discovery in human thought is Plato's discovery of abstract objects [Brown,JR]
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p.16
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11237
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Only universals have essence [Politis]
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p.16
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11238
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Plato and Aristotle take essence to make a thing what it is [Politis]
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p.34
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557
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A Form is a cause of things only in the way that white mixed with white is a cause [Aristotle]
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p.34
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556
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If there is one Form for both the Form and its participants, they must have something in common [Aristotle]
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p.43
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2173
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As religion and convention collapsed, Plato sought morals not just in knowledge, but in the soul [Williams,B]
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p.57
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9274
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Plato's legacy to European thought was the Good, the Beautiful and the True [Gray]
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p.58
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17085
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A good explanation totally rules out the opposite explanation (so Forms are required) [Ruben]
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p.62
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563
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If gods are like men, they are just eternal men; similarly, Forms must differ from particulars [Aristotle]
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p.64
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565
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The Forms cannot be changeless if they are in changing things [Aristotle]
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p.81
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3324
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Plato's whole philosophy may be based on being duped by reification - a figure of speech [Benardete,JA]
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p.96
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13260
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Plato says wholes are either containers, or they're atomic, or they don't exist [Koslicki]
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p.98
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14502
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Plato's idea of 'structure' tends to be mathematically expressed [Koslicki]
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p.98
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13261
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Plato sees an object's structure as expressible in mathematics [Koslicki]
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p.100
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13263
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We can grasp whole things in science, because they have a mathematics and a teleology [Koslicki]
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p.103
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20906
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Platonists argue for the indivisible triangle-in-itself [Aristotle]
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p.106
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2912
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Plato is boring [Nietzsche]
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p.117
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17947
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Plato decided that the virtuous and happy life was the philosophical life [Nehamas]
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p.118
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17948
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Plato's Forms meant that the sophists only taught the appearance of wisdom and virtue [Nehamas]
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p.120
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13265
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Plato was less concerned than Aristotle with the source of unity in a complex object [Koslicki]
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p.171
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593
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Plato's holds that there are three substances: Forms, mathematical entities, and perceptible bodies [Aristotle]
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p.175
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1526
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Almost everyone except Plato thinks that time could not have been generated [Aristotle]
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p.276
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7503
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Plato never refers to examining the conscience [Foucault]
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p.314
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94
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Pleasure is better with the addition of intelligence, so pleasure is not the good [Aristotle]
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p.336
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3039
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When Diogenes said he could only see objects but not their forms, Plato said it was because he had eyes but no intellect [Diog. Laertius]
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p.393
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3060
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Plato never mentions Democritus, and wished to burn his books [Diog. Laertius]
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p.405
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6015
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Plato, unusually, said that theoretical and practical wisdom are inseparable [Kraut]
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p.25
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6562
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Plato's reality has unchanging Parmenidean forms, and Heraclitean flux [Fogelin]
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p.27
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4115
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Plato found that he could only enforce rational moral justification by creating an authoritarian society [Williams,B]
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p.63
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5094
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Plato's Forms are said to have no location in space [Aristotle]
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p.79
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5945
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The 'Republic' is a great work of rhetorical theory [Lawson-Tancred]
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p.82
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2630
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If Plato's God is immaterial, he will lack consciousness, wisdom, pleasure and movement, which are essential to him [Cicero]
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p.82
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12043
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Forms are not universals, as they don't cover every general term [Annas]
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p.91
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1869
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The good cannot be expressed in words, but imprints itself upon the soul [Celsus]
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p.110
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12122
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Plato mistakenly thought forms were totally abstracted away from matter [Bacon]
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p.395
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5574
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Plato's Forms not only do not come from the senses, but they are beyond possibility of sensing [Kant]
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331c
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p.8
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7
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Surely you don't return a borrowed weapon to a mad friend?
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332d
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p.10
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2092
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Simonides said morality is helping one's friends and harming one's enemies
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338c
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p.18
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5
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Justice is merely the interests of the stronger party
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339a
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p.19
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8
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Is right just the interests of the powerful?
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339b
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p.345
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6009
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Psychic conflict is clear if appetite is close to the body and reason fairly separate [Modrak]
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350e
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p.37
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2093
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You must never go against what you actually believe
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353a
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p.40
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2094
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A thing's function is what it alone can do, or what it does better than other things
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353b
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p.41
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2095
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If something has a function then it has a state of being good
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353d
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p.41
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2096
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Is the function of the mind management, authority and planning - or is it one's whole way of life?
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359a
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p.46
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19946
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Morality is a compromise, showing restraint, to avoid suffering wrong without compensation
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359a
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p.46
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10
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After a taste of mutual harm, men make a legal contract to avoid it
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360c
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p.48
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12
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If we were invisible, would the just man become like the unjust?
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363d
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p.51
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13
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Is the supreme reward for virtue to be drunk for eternity?
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365b
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p.53
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2097
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Isn't it better to have a reputation for goodness than to actually be good?
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365d
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p.54
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14
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If the gods are non-existent or indifferent, why bother to deceive them?
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365e
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p.54
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15
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Sin first, then sacrifice to the gods from the proceeds
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366c
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p.55
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16
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We avoid evil either through a natural aversion, or because we have acquired knowledge
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369b
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p.117
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19889
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People need society because the individual has too many needs
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369c
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p.118
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19890
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All exchanges in a community are for mutual benefit
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379c
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p.74
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2120
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God is responsible for the good things, but we must look elsewhere for the cause of the bad things
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380e
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p.1019
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2061
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The best things (gods, healthy bodies, good souls) are least liable to change
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402e
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p.101
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2123
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Excessive pleasure deranges people, making the other virtues impossible
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427e
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p.133
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2126
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A good community necessarily has wisdom, courage, self-discipline and morality
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433d
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p.1065
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23561
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People doing their jobs properly is the fourth cardinal virtue for a city
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439b
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p.149
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2127
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The mind has parts, because we have inner conflicts
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439b
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p.212
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1737
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The soul seems to have an infinity of parts [Aristotle]
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441a
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p.152
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6041
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There is a third element to the mind - spirit - lying between reason and appetite
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441d
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p.1073
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23562
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If the parts of our soul do their correct work, we will be just people, and will act justly
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444e
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p.157
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2129
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Goodness is mental health, badness is mental sickness
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454a
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p.165
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2130
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People often merely practice eristic instead of dialectic, because they don't analyse the subject-matter
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456e
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p.169
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2131
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Is there anything better for a community than to produce excellent people?
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473d
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p.193
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2132
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Only rule by philosophers of integrity can keep a community healthy
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479e
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p.202
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2133
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Knowledge must be of the permanent unchanging nature of things
|
485d
|
p.205
|
2134
|
Philosophers are concerned with totally non-physical pleasures
|
486d
|
p.206
|
2135
|
Truth is closely related to proportion
|
500d
|
p.224
|
2136
|
Philosophers become as divine and orderly as possible, by studying divinity and order
|
505a
|
p.230
|
2137
|
The main aim is to understand goodness, which gives everything its value and advantage
|
505b
|
p.230
|
2138
|
Pleasure is commonly thought to be the good, though the more ingenious prefer knowledge
|
505c
|
p.231
|
2070
|
Even people who think pleasure is the good admit that there are bad pleasures
|
505d
|
p.70
|
4007
|
For Plato we abandon honour and pleasure once we see the Good [Taylor,C]
|
505d
|
p.231
|
2139
|
Every person, and every activity, aims at the good
|
506c
|
p.232
|
2140
|
True belief without knowledge is like blind people on the right road
|
506e
|
p.233
|
2141
|
I suggest that we forget about trying to define goodness itself for the time being
|
507b
|
p.233
|
2142
|
The plurality of beautiful things must belong to a single class, because they have a single particular character
|
508c
|
p.235
|
2143
|
Good has the same role in the world of knowledge as the sun has in the physical world
|
508e
|
p.236
|
2144
|
Goodness makes truth and knowledge possible
|
509b
|
p.1130
|
21818
|
Being depends on the Good, which is not itself being, but superior to being
|
510c
|
p.238
|
2145
|
In mathematics certain things have to be accepted without further explanation
|
517c
|
p.244
|
2147
|
The sight of goodness leads to all that is fine and true and right
|
518c
|
p.245
|
2148
|
To gain knowledge, turn away from the world of change, and focus on true goodness
|
518d
|
p.308
|
4547
|
Plato measured the degree of reality by the degree of value [Nietzsche]
|
520d
|
p.248
|
2149
|
Reluctant rulers make a better and more unified administration
|
525a
|
p.1141
|
9861
|
The same thing is both one and an unlimited number at the same time
|
525b
|
p.1142
|
9862
|
To become rational, philosophers must rise from becoming into being
|
525d
|
p.1142
|
9863
|
We aim for elevated discussion of pure numbers, not attaching them to physical objects
|
526a
|
p.1142
|
9864
|
In pure numbers, all ones are equal, with no internal parts
|
527a
|
p.258
|
8727
|
Geometry is not an activity, but the study of unchanging knowledge
|
527b
|
p.258
|
8726
|
Geometry can lead the mind upwards to truth and philosophy
|
533c
|
p.266
|
2151
|
Dialectic is the only method of inquiry which uproots the things which it takes for granted
|
534e
|
p.268
|
2152
|
Dialectic is the highest and most important part of the curriculum
|
536e
|
p.271
|
2153
|
Compulsory intellectual work never remains in the mind
|
537c
|
p.271
|
2154
|
The ability to take an overview is the distinguishing mark of a dialectician
|
537d
|
p.92
|
4011
|
For Plato, rationality is a vision of and love of a cosmic rational order [Taylor,C]
|
554e
|
p.292
|
2155
|
True goodness requires mental unity and harmony
|
577e
|
p.20
|
23316
|
For Plato and Aristotle there is no will; there is only rational desire for what is seen as good [Frede,M]
|
580d
|
p.326
|
2156
|
There are three types of pleasure, for reason, for spirit and for appetite
|
584b
|
p.332
|
2157
|
Nice smells are intensive, have no preceding pain, and no bad after-effect
|
586b
|
p.335
|
2158
|
Pleasure-seekers desperately seek illusory satisfaction, like filling a leaky vessel
|
596a
|
p.345
|
17
|
A Form applies to a set of particular things with the same name
|
596b
|
p.345
|
2159
|
Craftsmen making furniture refer to the form, but no one manufactures the form of furniture
|
601a
|
p.1205
|
16565
|
Without the surface decoration, poetry shows only appearances and nothing of what is real
|
602c
|
p.354
|
2160
|
Representation is two steps removed from the truth
|
603a
|
p.355
|
2162
|
If theory and practice conflict, the best part of the mind accepts theory, so the other part is of lower grade
|
605b
|
p.358
|
2163
|
Artists should be excluded from a law-abiding community, because they destroy the rational mind
|
608e
|
p.364
|
2164
|
Bad is always destructive, where good preserves and benefits
|
611b
|
p.367
|
2165
|
Something is unlikely to be immortal if it is imperfectly made from diverse parts
|
612b
|
p.368
|
2166
|
We should behave well even if invisible, for the health of the mind
|
613b
|
p.370
|
2168
|
Clever criminals do well at first, but not in the long run
|
Ch.9
|
p.70
|
5944
|
For Plato, virtue is its own reward [Lawson-Tancred]
|
410b
|
p.101
|
1590
|
The just man does not harm his enemies, but benefits everyone
|
152c
|
p.31
|
2045
|
Perception is infallible, suggesting that it is knowledge
|
158b
|
p.42
|
2047
|
What evidence can be brought to show whether we are dreaming or not?
|
167a
|
p.57
|
2050
|
It is impossible to believe something which is held to be false
|
167e
|
p.58
|
2052
|
Eristic discussion is aggressive, but dialectic aims to help one's companions in discussion
|
171a
|
p.64
|
2053
|
If you claim that all beliefs are true, that includes beliefs opposed to your own
|
171e
|
p.65
|
2054
|
Clearly some people are superior to others when it comes to medicine
|
172d
|
p.67
|
2056
|
Philosophers are always switching direction to something more interesting
|
176a
|
p.72
|
2057
|
There must always be some force of evil ranged against good
|
176c
|
p.73
|
2058
|
God must be the epitome of goodness, and we can only approach a divine state by being as good as possible
|
178c
|
p.76
|
2059
|
How can a relativist form opinions about what will happen in the future?
|
181d
|
p.81
|
2060
|
There seem to be two sorts of change: alteration and motion
|
184d
|
p.86
|
2067
|
Our senses could have been separate, but they converge on one mind
|
185d
|
p.88
|
2068
|
With what physical faculty do we perceive pairs of opposed abstract qualities?
|
186c
|
p.90
|
2069
|
Thought must grasp being itself before truth becomes possible
|
189a
|
p.95
|
2076
|
How can a belief exist if its object doesn't exist?
|
195e
|
p.106
|
2078
|
You might mistake eleven for twelve in your senses, but not in your mind
|
198b
|
p.219
|
10216
|
We master arithmetic by knowing all the numbers in our soul
|
201d
|
p.115
|
2080
|
Things are only knowable if a rational account (logos) is possible
|
201e
|
p.116
|
2081
|
Maybe primary elements can be named, but not receive a rational account
|
202b
|
p.116
|
2082
|
A rational account is essentially a weaving together of things with names
|
202b01-3
|
p.223
|
15854
|
A primary element has only a name, and no logos, but complexes have an account, by weaving the names
|
204e
|
p.227
|
15843
|
The whole can't be the parts, because it would be all of the parts, which is the whole
|
205a
|
p.227
|
15844
|
A sum is that from which nothing is lacking, which is a whole
|
205b
|
p.121
|
2083
|
Either a syllable is its letters (making parts as knowable as whole) or it isn't (meaning it has no parts)
|
205d
|
p.122
|
2084
|
If a word has no parts and has a single identity, it turns out to be the same kind of thing as a letter
|
205e
|
p.123
|
2085
|
Parts and wholes are either equally knowable or equally unknowable
|
206b
|
p.123
|
2086
|
Understanding mainly involves knowing the elements, not their combinations
|
206d
|
p.124
|
2087
|
A rational account might be seeing an image of one's belief, like a reflection in a mirror
|
207b
|
p.125
|
2088
|
A rational account of a wagon would mean knowledge of its hundred parts
|
207c
|
p.230
|
16126
|
Expertise is knowledge of the whole by means of the parts
|
208b
|
p.126
|
2089
|
An inadequate rational account would still not justify knowledge
|
208c
|
p.127
|
2090
|
A rational account involves giving an image, or analysis, or giving a differentiating mark
|
209b
|
p.128
|
2091
|
Without distinguishing marks, how do I know what my beliefs are about?
|
237d
|
p.36
|
143
|
The two ruling human principles are the natural desire for pleasure, and an acquired love of virtue
|
237e
|
p.37
|
144
|
Reason impels us towards excellence, which teaches us self-control
|
245c
|
p.49
|
146
|
Soul is always in motion, so it must be self-moving and immortal
|
245d
|
p.49
|
148
|
If the prime origin is destroyed, it will not come into being again out of anything
|
245e
|
p.49
|
9296
|
The soul is self-motion
|
246d
|
p.51
|
149
|
There isn't a single reason for positing the existence of immortal beings
|
246d
|
p.51
|
150
|
We cannot conceive of God, so we have to think of Him as an immortal version of ourselves
|
247c
|
p.52
|
151
|
True knowledge is of the reality behind sense experience
|
247d
|
p.52
|
152
|
The mind of God is fully satisfied and happy with a vision of reality and truth
|
249b
|
p.55
|
153
|
It takes a person to understand, by using universals, and by using reason to create a unity out of sense-impressions
|
250d
|
p.57
|
154
|
We would have an overpowering love of knowledge if we had a pure idea of it - as with the other Forms
|
250e
|
p.57
|
155
|
Beauty is the clearest and most lovely of the Forms
|
255b
|
p.63
|
156
|
Bad people are never really friends with one another
|
258e
|
p.69
|
157
|
Most pleasure is release from pain, and is therefore not worthwhile
|
259e
|
p.71
|
158
|
An excellent speech seems to imply a knowledge of the truth in the mind of the speaker
|
261a
|
p.73
|
159
|
Only a good philosopher can be a good speaker
|
265d
|
p.82
|
7953
|
Reasoning needs to cut nature accurately at the joints
|
266b
|
p.82
|
160
|
The highest ability in man is the ability to discuss unity and plurality in the nature of things
|
266b
|
p.543
|
16121
|
I revere anyone who can discern a single thing that encompasses many things
|
270c
|
p.89
|
162
|
Can we understand an individual soul without knowing the soul in general?
|
272e
|
p.93
|
165
|
If the apparent facts strongly conflict with probability, it is in everyone's interests to suppress the facts
|
277b
|
p.100
|
166
|
A speaker should be able to divide a subject, right down to the limits of divisibility
|
Ch.10
|
p.85
|
5946
|
'Phaedrus' pioneers the notion of philosophical rhetoric [Lawson-Tancred]
|
|
p.27
|
16151
|
Plato moves from Forms to a theory of genera and principles in his later work [Frede,M]
|
|
p.28
|
13986
|
Plato found antinomies in ideas, Kant in space and time, and Bradley in relations [Ryle]
|
|
p.44
|
8937
|
Plato's 'Parmenides' is the greatest artistic achievement of the ancient dialectic [Hegel]
|
|
p.105
|
15846
|
In Parmenides, if composition is identity, a whole is nothing more than its parts [Harte,V]
|
|
p.355
|
14150
|
Plato's 'Parmenides' is perhaps the best collection of antinomies ever made [Russell]
|
|
p.357
|
21821
|
Plato's Parmenides has a three-part theory, of Primal One, a One-Many, and a One-and-Many [Plotinus]
|
130d
|
p.211
|
210
|
It would be absurd to think there were abstract Forms for vile things like hair, mud and dirt
|
130d
|
p.213
|
211
|
If admirable things have Forms, maybe everything else does as well
|
131a
|
p.213
|
212
|
The whole idea of each Form must be found in each thing which participates in it
|
131b
|
p.215
|
213
|
Each idea is in all its participants at once, just as daytime is a unity but in many separate places at once
|
132a
|
p.217
|
214
|
If absolute greatness and great things are seen as the same, another thing appears which makes them seem great
|
132c
|
p.219
|
215
|
If things partake of ideas, this implies either that everything thinks, or that everything actually is thought
|
132e
|
p.221
|
216
|
If things are made alike by participating in something, that thing will be the absolute idea
|
133a
|
p.221
|
218
|
Participation is not by means of similarity, so we are looking for some other method of participation
|
133a
|
p.221
|
217
|
Nothing can be like an absolute idea, because a third idea intervenes to make them alike (leading to a regress)
|
133c
|
p.223
|
219
|
If absolute ideas existed in us, they would cease to be absolute
|
133e
|
p.225
|
220
|
The concept of a master includes the concept of a slave
|
134c
|
p.227
|
221
|
Absolute ideas, such as the Good and the Beautiful, cannot be known by us
|
135a
|
p.227
|
222
|
Only a great person can understand the essence of things, and an even greater person can teach it
|
135c
|
p.229
|
223
|
If you deny that each thing always stays the same, you destroy the possibility of discussion
|
135e
|
p.231
|
224
|
When questions are doubtful we should concentrate not on objects but on ideas of the intellect
|
137c09
|
p.95
|
13259
|
It seems that the One must be composed of parts, which contradicts its being one
|
137e
|
p.237
|
225
|
The unlimited has no shape and is endless
|
138b
|
p.372
|
2062
|
The only movement possible for the One is in space or in alteration
|
144a
|
p.377
|
16150
|
One is, so numbers exist, so endless numbers exist, and each one must partake of being
|
146b
|
p.379
|
15847
|
Two things relate either as same or different, or part of a whole, or the whole of the part
|
147d
|
p.269
|
227
|
You must always mean the same thing when you utter the same name
|
149e
|
p.277
|
228
|
Greatness and smallness must exist, to be opposed to one another, and come into being in things
|
155d
|
p.295
|
229
|
The one was and is and will be and was becoming and is becoming and will become
|
157c
|
p.123
|
15849
|
Plato says only a one has parts, and a many does not [Harte,V]
|
157c
|
p.301
|
231
|
Everything partakes of the One in some way
|
157c
|
p.389
|
15850
|
Anything which has parts must be one thing, and parts are of a one, not of a many
|
157d
|
p.389
|
15851
|
Parts must belong to a created thing with a distinct form
|
159a
|
p.307
|
232
|
Opposites are as unlike as possible
|
159d
|
p.309
|
233
|
Some things do not partake of the One
|
160d
|
p.313
|
234
|
We couldn't discuss the non-existence of the One without knowledge of it
|
228b
|
p.17
|
1636
|
Wickedness is an illness of the soul
|
228d
|
p.18
|
1637
|
A soul without understanding is ugly
|
230a
|
p.20
|
1638
|
Didactic education is hard work and achieves little
|
230b
|
p.250
|
20478
|
In discussion a person's opinions are shown to be in conflict, leading to calm self-criticism
|
237c
|
p.257
|
11278
|
What does 'that which is not' refer to?
|
246b
|
p.39
|
1641
|
Some alarming thinkers think that only things which you can touch exist
|
247e
|
p.269
|
7022
|
To be is to have a capacity, to act on other things, or to receive actions
|
249c
|
p.43
|
1642
|
We must fight fiercely for knowledge, understanding and intelligence
|
250d
|
p.45
|
1643
|
If statements about non-existence are logically puzzling, so are statements about existence
|
253d
|
p.49
|
287
|
Good analysis involves dividing things into appropriate forms without confusion
|
253d
|
p.276
|
16122
|
Good thinkers spot forms spread through things, or included within some larger form
|
253e
|
p.49
|
1644
|
Dialectic should only be taught to those who already philosophise well
|
257d
|
p.281
|
10422
|
The not-beautiful is part of the beautiful, though opposed to it, and is just as real
|
259e
|
p.57
|
1645
|
The desire to split everything into its parts is unpleasant and unphilosophical
|
259e
|
p.283
|
15855
|
If we see everything as separate, we can then give no account of it
|
262e
|
p.286
|
10784
|
Whenever there's speech it has to be about something
|
264e
|
p.289
|
16125
|
To reveal a nature, divide down, and strip away what it has in common with other things
|
269b
|
p.18
|
279
|
Only divine things can always stay the same, and bodies are not like that
|
273b
|
p.23
|
5961
|
The soul gets its goodness from god, and its evil from previous existence.
|
284b
|
p.35
|
281
|
The arts produce good and beautiful things by preserving the mean
|
285b
|
p.328
|
16123
|
Whenever you perceive a community of things, you should also hunt out differences in the group
|
285d
|
p.329
|
16124
|
No one wants to define 'weaving' just for the sake of weaving
|
286a
|
p.37
|
282
|
Non-physical beauty can only be shown clearly by speech
|
302e
|
p.85
|
22559
|
Democracy is the worst of good constitutions, but the best of bad constitutions [Aristotle]
|
304c
|
p.58
|
283
|
The question of whether or not to persuade comes before the science of persuasion
|
11b
|
p.51
|
371
|
Reason, memory, truth and wisdom are far better than pleasure, for those who can attain them
|
13b
|
p.54
|
373
|
Pleasure is certainly very pleasant, but it doesn't follow that all pleasures are good
|
14e
|
p.57
|
374
|
If one object is divided into its parts, someone can then say that one are many and many is one
|
14e
|
p.402
|
15845
|
It seems absurd that seeing a person's limbs, the one is many, and yet the many are one
|
15a
|
p.403
|
4447
|
If the good is one, is it unchanged when it is in particulars, and is it then separated from itself?
|
15d
|
p.403
|
15856
|
A thing can become one or many, depending on how we talk about it
|
20e
|
p.67
|
376
|
Would you prefer a life of pleasure without reason, or one of reason without pleasure?
|
21a
|
p.67
|
377
|
If you lived a life of maximum pleasure, would you still be lacking anything?
|
21c
|
p.68
|
378
|
A life of pure pleasure with no intellect is the life of a jellyfish
|
22b
|
p.69
|
379
|
The good must be sufficient and perfect, and neither intellect nor pleasure are that
|
31d
|
p.86
|
381
|
We feel pleasure when we approach our natural state of harmony
|
33b
|
p.88
|
382
|
It is unlikely that the gods feel either pleasure or pain
|
42c
|
p.106
|
385
|
Some of the pleasures and pains we feel are false
|
45e
|
p.112
|
386
|
Intense pleasure and pain are not felt in a good body, but in a worthless one
|
53b
|
p.124
|
387
|
A small pure pleasure is much finer than a large one contaminated with pain
|
55b
|
p.128
|
388
|
Hedonists must say that someone in pain is bad, even if they are virtuous
|
56d
|
p.446
|
9865
|
Daily arithmetic counts unequal things, but pure arithmetic equalises them
|
59b
|
p.135
|
389
|
How can you be certain about aspects of the world if they aren't constant?
|
62a
|
p.451
|
9867
|
It is absurd to define a circle, but not be able to recognise a real one
|
64d
|
p.454
|
14503
|
If a mixture does not contain measure and proportion, it is corrupted and destroyed
|
64e
|
p.145
|
390
|
If goodness involves moderation and proportion, then it seems to be found in beauty
|
64e
|
p.454
|
15857
|
Any mixture which lacks measure and proportion doesn't even count as a mixture at all
|
65a
|
p.145
|
391
|
The good involves beauty, proportion and truth
|
67a
|
p.149
|
392
|
Neither intellect nor pleasure are the good, because they are not perfect and self-sufficient
|
67a
|
p.149
|
393
|
Good first, then beauty, then reason, then knowledge, then pleasure [PG]
|
334
|
p.127
|
168
|
To understand morality requires a soul
|
|
p.81
|
12042
|
Plato's Forms were seen as part of physics, rather than of metaphysics [Annas]
|
|
p.223
|
5962
|
Plato says the soul is ordered by number [Plutarch]
|
28a
|
p.40
|
306
|
Nothing can come to be without a cause
|
28a
|
p.1234
|
20364
|
The apprehensions of reason remain unchanging, but reasonless sensation shows mere becoming
|
28b
|
p.40
|
307
|
Something will always be well-made if the maker keeps in mind the eternal underlying pattern
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28d
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p.41
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308
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If the cosmos is an object of perception then it must be continually changing
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29a
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p.41
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309
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Clearly the world is good, so its maker must have been concerned with the eternal, not with change
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29e
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p.42
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310
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The creator of the cosmos had no envy, and so wanted things to be as like himself as possible
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31c
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p.43
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311
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The cosmos must be unique, because it resembles the creator, who is unique
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38c
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p.52
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312
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Time came into existence with the heavens, so that there will be a time when they can be dissolved
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47a
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p.65
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314
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Heavenly movements gave us the idea of time, and caused us to inquire about the heavens
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47b
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p.65
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315
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Philosophy is the supreme gift of the gods to mortals
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47d
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p.65
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316
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Music has harmony like the soul, and serves to reorder disharmony within us
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48e
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p.67
|
317
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The universe is basically an intelligible and unchanging model, and a visible and changing copy of it
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49b
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p.67
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318
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In addition to the underlying unchanging model and a changing copy of it, there must also be a foundation of all change
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51d
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p.71
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321
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For knowledge and true opinion to be different there must be Forms; otherwise we are just stuck with sensations
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51e
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p.71
|
322
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Intelligence is the result of rational teaching; true opinion can result from irrational persuasion
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52d
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p.72
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324
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Before the existence of the world there must have been being, space and becoming
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56c
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p.79
|
325
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We must consider the four basic shapes as too small to see, only becoming visible in large numbers
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59c
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p.84
|
326
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For relaxation one can consider the world of change, instead of eternal things
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68e
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p.96
|
327
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There are two types of cause, the necessary and the divine
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81e
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p.111
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328
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Everything that takes place naturally is pleasant
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86e
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p.117
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330
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No one wants to be bad, but bad men result from physical and educational failures, which they do not want or choose
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87b
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p.118
|
331
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Bad governments prevent discussion, and discourage the study of virtue
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88c
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p.118
|
332
|
One should exercise both the mind and the body, to avoid imbalance
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91d
|
p.123
|
334
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Only bird-brained people think astronomy is entirely a matter of evidence
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|
p.55
|
8004
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In 'The Laws', to obey the law is to be obey god [MacIntyre]
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631a
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p.54
|
235
|
Virtue is the aim of all laws
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631b
|
p.55
|
236
|
Sound laws achieve the happiness of those who observe them
|
643c
|
p.72
|
238
|
Children's games should channel their pleasures into adult activity
|
643e
|
p.73
|
239
|
Education in virtue produces citizens who are active but obedient
|
653b
|
p.1344
|
4331
|
Education is channelling a child's feelings into the right course before it understands why
|
653c
|
p.1344
|
4332
|
Virtue is a concord of reason and emotion, with pleasure and pain trained to correct ends
|
662c
|
p.99
|
240
|
It would be strange if the gods rewarded those who experienced the most pleasure in life
|
667a
|
p.106
|
241
|
We ought to follow where the argument leads us
|
667b
|
p.100
|
15447
|
We shouldn't always follow where the argument leads! [Lewis]
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679b
|
p.122
|
242
|
The best people are produced where there is no excess of wealth or poverty
|
689b
|
p.136
|
243
|
It is foolish to quarrel with the mind's own reasoning processes
|
697d
|
p.149
|
245
|
Totalitarian states destroy friendships and community spirit
|
718e
|
p.179
|
248
|
A serious desire for moral excellence is very rare indeed
|
727e
|
p.190
|
249
|
People who value beauty above virtue insult the soul by placing the body above it
|
729c
|
p.193
|
250
|
The best way to educate the young is not to rebuke them, but to set a good example
|
730c
|
p.194
|
251
|
Truth has the supreme value, for both gods and men
|
731e
|
p.196
|
253
|
Every crime is the result of excessive self-love
|
732c
|
p.197
|
254
|
Excessive laughter and tears must be avoided
|
742e
|
p.212
|
256
|
Virtue and great wealth are incompatible
|
747a
|
p.218
|
257
|
Mathematics has the widest application of any subject on the curriculum
|
757a
|
p.229
|
1402
|
Friendship is impossible between master and slave, even if they are made equal
|
757d
|
p.230
|
259
|
Justice is granting the equality which unequals deserve
|
765e
|
p.241
|
260
|
Control of education is the key office of state, and should go to the best citizen
|
802a
|
p.289
|
262
|
Men and women should qualify equally for honours on merit
|
807c
|
p.297
|
263
|
The only worthwhile life is one devoted to physical and moral perfection
|
840c
|
p.339
|
264
|
The conquest of pleasure is the noblest victory of all
|
862b
|
p.371
|
265
|
An action is only just if it is performed by someone with a just character and outlook
|
863e
|
p.374
|
266
|
Injustice is the mastery of the soul by bad feelings, even if they do not lead to harm
|
877a
|
p.397
|
269
|
Attempted murder is like real murder, but we should respect the luck which avoided total ruin
|
894d
|
p.1551
|
21257
|
Self-generating motion is clearly superior to all other kinds of motion
|
895a
|
p.424
|
273
|
Movement is transmitted through everything, and it must have started with self-generated motion
|
895a
|
p.1551
|
21258
|
The only possible beginning for the endless motions of reality is something self-generated
|
895d
|
p.1552
|
21259
|
To grasp a thing we need its name, its definition, and what it really is
|
896a
|
p.1552
|
21260
|
Soul is what is defined by 'self-generating motion'
|
896b
|
p.1553
|
21261
|
Self-moving soul has to be the oldest thing there is
|
896d
|
p.427
|
274
|
Soul must be the cause of all the opposites, such as good and evil or beauty and ugliness
|
896e
|
p.1553
|
21262
|
There must be at least two souls controlling the cosmos, one doing good, the other the opposite
|
897c
|
p.1554
|
21263
|
If all the motions of nature reflect calculations of reason, then the best kind of soul must direct it
|
897d
|
p.1554
|
21264
|
Mortals are incapable of being fully rational
|
899b
|
p.1556
|
21265
|
The heavens must be full of gods, controlling nature either externally or from within
|
903c
|
p.437
|
275
|
Creation is not for you; you exist for the sake of creation
|
959a
|
p.512
|
276
|
My individuality is my soul, which carries my body around
|
965d
|
p.525
|
277
|
The Guardians must aim to discover the common element in the four cardinal virtues
|
967a
|
p.527
|
278
|
If astronomical movements are seen as necessary instead of by divine will, this leads to atheism
|