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Single Idea 16120

[filed under theme 11. Knowledge Aims / A. Knowledge / 1. Knowledge ]

Full Idea

If there exists the knowledge of how to make men immortal, but without the knowledge of how to use this immortality, there seems to be no value in it.

Gist of Idea

Knowing how to achieve immortality is pointless without the knowledge how to use immortality

Source

Plato (Euthydemus [c.379 BCE], 289b)

Book Ref

Plato: 'Complete Works', ed/tr. Cooper,John M. [Hackett 1997], p.726


A Reaction

I take this to be not a gormless utilitarianism about knowledge, but a plea for holism, that knowledge only has value as part of some larger picture. The big view is the important view. He's wrong, though. Work out the use later.


The 38 ideas with the same theme [situation of holding a set of reliable true beliefs]:

To know yet to think that one does not know is best [Laozi (Lao Tzu)]
Pursuit of learning increases activity; the Way decreases it [Laozi (Lao Tzu)]
Knowing how to achieve immortality is pointless without the knowledge how to use immortality [Plato]
Knowledge must be of the permanent unchanging nature of things [Plato]
Things are only knowable if a rational account (logos) is possible [Plato]
The ability to teach is a mark of true knowledge [Aristotle]
For Aristotle knowledge is explanatory, involving understanding, and principles or causes [Aristotle, by Witt]
'Episteme' means grasping causes, universal judgments, explanation, and teaching [Aristotle, by Witt]
The reason why is the key to knowledge [Aristotle]
For Aristotle, knowledge is of causes, and is theoretical, practical or productive [Aristotle, by Code]
Do not try to do things, or to master knowledge; just be empty [Zhuangzi (Chuang Tzu)]
Perception an open hand, a fist is 'grasping', and holding that fist is knowledge [Zeno of Citium, by Long]
Knowledge is a secure grasp of presentations which cannot be reversed by argument [Stoic school, by Diog. Laertius]
Knowledge is a quality existing subjectively in the soul [William of Ockham]
Sometimes 'knowledge' just concerns the conclusion, sometimes the whole demonstration [William of Ockham]
Spinoza's three levels of knowledge are perception/imagination, then principles, then intuitions [Spinoza, by Scruton]
Our knowledge falls short of the extent of our own ideas [Locke]
Knowledge needs clarity, distinctness, and adequacy, and it should be intuitive [Leibniz]
Perfect knowledge implies complete explanations and perfect prediction [Leibniz]
No one would bother to reason, and try to know things, without a desire for enjoyment [Rousseau]
Knowledge is threefold: apprehension, reproduction by imagination, recognition by concepts [Kant, by Bowie]
Knowledge begins with intuitions, moves to concepts, and ends with ideas [Kant]
'Transcendental' concerns how we know, rather than what we know [Kant]
The strength of knowledge is not its truth, but its entrenchment in our culture [Nietzsche]
We can't know whether there is knowledge if we don't know what it is [Nietzsche]
Knowledge is either the product of competent enquiry, or it is meaningless [Dewey]
All our knowledge (if verbal) is general, because all sentences contain general words [Russell]
In epistemology we should emphasis the continuity between animal and human minds [Russell]
Knowledge cannot be precisely defined, as it merges into 'probable opinion' [Russell]
Why does knowledge appear in sudden bursts, and not in a smooth continuous development? [Foucault]
It is acceptable to say a supermarket door 'knows' someone is approaching [Sosa]
The concept of knowledge is so confused that it is best avoided [Bonjour]
Epistemology is about the justification of belief, not the definition of knowledge [Scruton]
The main epistemological theories are foundationalist, coherence, probabilistic and reliabilist [Pollock/Cruz]
Perception, introspection, testimony, memory, reason, and inference can give us knowledge [Bernecker/Dretske]
We have inexact knowledge when we include margins of error [Williamson]
Epistemology does not just concern knowledge; all aspects of cognitive activity are involved [Kvanvig]
Maybe there is plain 'animal' knowledge, and clearly justified 'reflective' knowledge [Vahid]